A photography tutorial on depth of field with Shelton Muller of Total Image magazine (www.total-image.com.au)
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Hmm I read here something, Could it be because I am using a small Dv camera with a small optical sensor? at 1/6″ the sensor is very far from a tru 35 mm system
I cant seem to make any of these results nearly as identical as yours man, I have tried close and far distance, wide and long lenses, aperture size from F1.6 to much higher
I can achieve out of focus behind the subject, HOWEVER! I can never get a really blurry background behind a full body shot??
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@blacksunway It IS clear who the tutorial is directed. He’s just showing what can be done. If your limitations were all that were included, the lesson would be incomplete. You should also know that there are plenty of people who “can afford” and do, in fact, buy expensive equipment so your comment that only pros can afford the equipment is makes no sense. People who have enough money can afford expensive equipment.
@MegaAfroGuy I did not make myself clear. All P’n'S cameras does make DOF. But it is not strong one because the sensor is so small. When compared to (D)LSR cameras where you can have fullsize sensor, you get much stronger DOF so background is almost single color. But still depending aperture, distance and sensor size.
Just use tilt/shift lense with big sensor (now we are actually talking about architecture film cameras). Just put f:64 or f:128 and tilt it so DOF goes along the ground.
@TheFri13 well dof will happen with any lens, the blokeh wont be good at all but it will still work. everything being in prefect focus would mean having no dof, even with f36 on a 4/3 or f-22 on a p&s camera will still blur a bit
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And there is the price. With DSLR you can shoot as much as you want.
@yyyy2999 Reason is that with point-and-shoot cameras you have too small sensor on them to get the same effect with same settings as cameras with bigger sensor. You need to zoom out as much as possible and use smallest aperture to get better effect. The sensor size is reason why cameraphones and point’n'shoot cameras will never get same quality as DSLR’s. Same thing apply otherwise. DSLR’s can not have same effect as medium size or architecture cameras. All cameras has their power and weakness
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@FirebrandNIRE You can get. Just for potraits, use 85-100mm (36mm equilavent) (some people preferr 50-56mm (36mm) as what is the size what human eye sees) and focus so close as possible to get the subject as you want. Closer you are and longer focal you use, with small (as possible) f: then shorter the DOF will be.
When the subject range grows, then DOF will grow as well, even when using same f:. Example, f:5.6 at 45cm could give you a 8cm DOF. But focus to 15 meters and you have 5 meters DOF.
@MegaAfroGuy It is not possible with any camera and lense. DOF depends from aperture, subject distance and sensor size.
With P’n'S cameras you can not get that so well. Even with zoom cameras for 600mm (36mm) focal you get sharper background because the sensor is too small. That is one reason why many preferr cameras with full-size sensors so they can get more easily smaller DOF. Lenses on wide angle you can not get same effect as well than using long focal and same aperture size.
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I finally worked out anyways and got some good shots.
I also purchased a 50mm f/1.8 lens for my camera ,which is incredible for DOF.
The learning process continues however…..
@FirebrandNIRE first put the wheel on the top to the letter A then make the F-stop number as small as possible, focus your lens on what you are taking a picture of either by pushing the shutter button half way or twisting the focus ring and take the picture, you can do it with any camera and lens even a point and shoot
Please can someone help me with DOF? I’ve got a Nikon D90 with a 18-105mm lens, can I get DOF with this lens or am I wasting my time? I’m really clueless, but really wanna learn this stuff.
i wish i would do this with my superzoom, lowest is f2.8 but its way different then that of a dslr. The background can be partially blurred but it’s still not my desired effect…
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Hmm I read here something, Could it be because I am using a small Dv camera with a small optical sensor? at 1/6″ the sensor is very far from a tru 35 mm system
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I cant seem to make any of these results nearly as identical as yours man, I have tried close and far distance, wide and long lenses, aperture size from F1.6 to much higher
I can achieve out of focus behind the subject, HOWEVER! I can never get a really blurry background behind a full body shot??
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@blacksunway It IS clear who the tutorial is directed. He’s just showing what can be done. If your limitations were all that were included, the lesson would be incomplete. You should also know that there are plenty of people who “can afford” and do, in fact, buy expensive equipment so your comment that only pros can afford the equipment is makes no sense. People who have enough money can afford expensive equipment.
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@MegaAfroGuy I did not make myself clear. All P’n'S cameras does make DOF. But it is not strong one because the sensor is so small. When compared to (D)LSR cameras where you can have fullsize sensor, you get much stronger DOF so background is almost single color. But still depending aperture, distance and sensor size.
Just use tilt/shift lense with big sensor (now we are actually talking about architecture film cameras). Just put f:64 or f:128 and tilt it so DOF goes along the ground.
July 23rd, 2010 at 1:47 pm
@TheFri13 well dof will happen with any lens, the blokeh wont be good at all but it will still work. everything being in prefect focus would mean having no dof, even with f36 on a 4/3 or f-22 on a p&s camera will still blur a bit
July 23rd, 2010 at 2:23 pm
@SKTPSY No simple answer or overruling why digital SLR is better than film SLR. For normal user, the cost of film, development and so on is such that it can not be used so well. It is time consuming and with time, negatives/dias will suffer. DSLR gives faster the photos for use, allows easier (more in most cases) post-processing and on 2010 most espensive DSLR starts to have same quality as fiml cameras has with normal films.
And there is the price. With DSLR you can shoot as much as you want.
July 23rd, 2010 at 3:00 pm
@yyyy2999 Reason is that with point-and-shoot cameras you have too small sensor on them to get the same effect with same settings as cameras with bigger sensor. You need to zoom out as much as possible and use smallest aperture to get better effect. The sensor size is reason why cameraphones and point’n'shoot cameras will never get same quality as DSLR’s. Same thing apply otherwise. DSLR’s can not have same effect as medium size or architecture cameras. All cameras has their power and weakness
July 23rd, 2010 at 3:37 pm
@SmokenRocker There is magical number what applyis to every photographer. Only 5% of photos will be successfull. And that means what are your top photos what you can show to anyone. No matter how much you shoot, the 5% applies. But for controlled situations, you can gain more good photos what ain’t technically bad, but they just dont have the feel what you want, what are in those 5% photos. I have asked has any photographer succeed to overrule this continuesly and answer is no.
July 23rd, 2010 at 3:41 pm
@FirebrandNIRE You can get. Just for potraits, use 85-100mm (36mm equilavent) (some people preferr 50-56mm (36mm) as what is the size what human eye sees) and focus so close as possible to get the subject as you want. Closer you are and longer focal you use, with small (as possible) f: then shorter the DOF will be.
When the subject range grows, then DOF will grow as well, even when using same f:. Example, f:5.6 at 45cm could give you a 8cm DOF. But focus to 15 meters and you have 5 meters DOF.
July 23rd, 2010 at 4:26 pm
@MegaAfroGuy It is not possible with any camera and lense. DOF depends from aperture, subject distance and sensor size.
With P’n'S cameras you can not get that so well. Even with zoom cameras for 600mm (36mm) focal you get sharper background because the sensor is too small. That is one reason why many preferr cameras with full-size sensors so they can get more easily smaller DOF. Lenses on wide angle you can not get same effect as well than using long focal and same aperture size.
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Hey thanks,
I finally worked out anyways and got some good shots.
I also purchased a 50mm f/1.8 lens for my camera ,which is incredible for DOF.
The learning process continues however…..
Thanks for your help very much appreciated!!
July 23rd, 2010 at 6:25 pm
@FirebrandNIRE first put the wheel on the top to the letter A then make the F-stop number as small as possible, focus your lens on what you are taking a picture of either by pushing the shutter button half way or twisting the focus ring and take the picture, you can do it with any camera and lens even a point and shoot
July 23rd, 2010 at 7:21 pm
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many thanks!!
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